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Aug 9

$AMRN Q2-CC post-mortem [w/ some minor snark]

AMRN Looks for a deal…

AMRN Looks for a Deal

Steve Schultz Sr. Director of IR

  • 0:40 Safe harbor statement
  • Schultz gives $AMRN’s website URL as “triple w amarin corp dot com” <- IR guy is a hipster?


CEO Joseph S. Zakrzewski

  • 7 patents “in play” w/ USPTO [we’re gonna get ‘em even if we have to grease a few palms]
  • 25 patents currently on file w/ USPTO [throw enough shit against the wall, some of it’s gonna stick]
  • Also received “intention to grant” letter for MARINE method of use patent in Europe
  • <blah blah blah…>
  • Ended June 30,2012 w/ $250MM on hand
  • Getting ready to file sNDA for high triglyceride w/ ANCHOR results
  • Can file ANCHOR based sNDA when REDUCE-IT (cardiovascular outcomes trial - CVOT) is substantially underway expected in 2012 [why are they linked?]
  • 3 paths to commercialization …(partner, buyout, solo)
  • Launch anticipated in early Q1’13. Various preparatory steps to take for launch.
  • Lead suppliers have passed inspections. 
  • Accumulate material for launch.
  • 6:45 yada yada yada <Vascepa is not Lovaza…it’s Lovaza-Plus!>
  • Vascepa exclusivity will be gained through patents, regulatory exclusivity [NCE], maintaining trade secrets [weak] & taking advantage of manufacturing barriers to entry [riiiiiiight…].
  • Progress on patent front…
  • Issuance of 1 patent, notice of allowance for one application & 5 “reasons for allowance” for others.
  • *** NCE reg exclusivity…still in active dialog w/ FDA. Since approval, AMRN has had continued dialog w/ FDA about NCE. “Hopeful” [is not a strategy] for NCE decision in time for inclusion in August Orange Book supplement…but it’s “also possible that decision may go longer.” At this time, FDA has not advised AMRN of a delay [they also have not told AMRN that they will not be allowed to sell blow on street corners] OR a decision [bullshit]. 
  • Since we’re still talking w/ FDA, we’re not going to make any more comments OR field questions about it…so everybody shut your pie holes about this.

Near-term potential newsflow

  • partnering info
  • NCE decision
  • addition of 4th supplier
  • REDUCE-IT CV outcomes study substantially underway
  • sNDA filing using ANCHOR data
  • sNDA submission for expanded supply chain
  • additional news on patents
  • scientific publications & presentation of MARINE data in Germany
  • combination product vascepa + “leading” statin
  • commercial launch

Financial results update

  • $250.3 million on June 30.
  • 9:52 <yawn>
  • increased costs are due to launch and clinical trials
  • Expect to spend ~ $25 - 35 million to stockpile Vascepa for launch inventory [any ideas on what this translates to in potential sales?]…how long can you keep stockpiled fish oil?

Q&A

  • Dewey Decimal (JPMorgan) Can you opine [Dewey must be a lawyer] on the recent stock sales? Were they previously planned? Could you have backed out of the sales? How much exposure does Sr. Mgmt still have? Why the F*#(* did you sell??

All sales previously planned. Represent 5% of CEO’s holdings. Fiscal fiduciary management [CEO sounds embarrassed].

  • You said you were building launch supplies. How much of a supply do you anticipate $25 - 35 million worth of Vascepa will be?

We aren’t prepared to give guidance on that.

  • Canaccord Genuity (??) Where are you on the hiring of sales people? Managers in place? Interviewing reps?

Large supply of sales people because the job market is in the crapper. Sales piece cranks up in october (if & when we get there) [wink wink].

  • Will you have “activity” in American Heart Association meeting in the fall?

Yes. Continue CME efforts in many cardiovascular forums.

  • Status on manufacturing sNDAs?

Hope to have 1 or 2 filed by EOY. Maybe a 3rd sNDA filed in Q1’13. Announce 4th supplier very shortly.

  • You talked about a statin-combination product? Have you picked a final formulation? Are you only moving forward w/ 1 statin?  Or multiple statins? 

We *have* a final formulation, but that’s all we’re going to say. We have a statin or statins picked out [depends on partner/buyer?]. Expect to start statin combo study by EOY.

  • Is the formulation a spray-coated capsule?

Not gonna say.

  • Tommy Nguyen (Jefferies). Give some color on biz dev. Is there a value creation event (IP/NCE?) that potential partners are still looking for? Or are you beyond that in negotiations? What the F*#*#( is taking so long??

dodge…weave…”discussions continue to increase in activity”…dodge

  • On timing of filing of sNDA for ANCHOR. Why are they tied to each other? Can you clarify how clear an understanding you have of the requirement to enroll in the outcomes study before filing? Is there some risk to delay from perhaps an incomplete understanding of the requirement?

Believe we’ll have [sNDA ANCHOR] approval  in 2H’13…we’re comfortable with that guidance…and that’s all we’re gonna say about that.

  • Vascepa is listed as 1 of 40 or so cardiovascular medicines on FDA website, but Lovaza isn’t. Does this mean anything significant?

Probably not. FDA is probably just lax on their website [tell me about it].

  • Ram S (Avis capital?)? Supply situation. Have you had discussions w/ BASF following their acquisition of Equitech? What’s the status of your relationship w/ BASF and their commitment to large scale manufacturing of omega-3 fatty acids? [What the F@#@$ is Ram asking? Just spit it out. Don’t pussy foot around asking touchy-feely questions about your relationship].

CEO’s lips move, but say nothing

  • REDUCE-IT. What are the other CV outcomes studies being performed with other drugs that are ongoing related to triglyceride lowering and how does REDUCE-IT compare?

Not the best person to ask about other people’s trials.

  • Can you provide color on higher doses of Vascepa?…you didn’t reach a maximum effective dose. Will you run higher-dose trials?

[Seems lukewarm about higher dose trials.] MDs can dose at whatever dose they want.

  • What about pricing of Vascepa, esp relative to PCSK9 (e.g., AMG-145) inhibitors?

 We’re looking to shift [market] share (eat Lovaza’s lunch) and expand the market…our goal is to get to Tier 2 as quickly as possible.

A lot of exciting times over the next 60 to 90 days [probably shouldn’t read too much into this]

ecyt2

Audio & “Transcript” of $ECYT conference call (5/10/12). $ECYT should end 2012 w/ > $188MM.

Ron Ellis (CEO) & Mike Sherman (CFO) speakers:

CEO:

  • Europe: still on schedule for filing for EC145 approval in europe in Q3 for Pt-resistant ovarian cancer in FR++ patients [patients over-producing folate receptor].
  • PROCEED trial has been on hold due to doxil shortages. Have approval from FDA to import doxil. We are enrolling patients in proceed study.
  • opened nsclc trial docetaxel (control), docetaxel + EC145, & EC145 alone.
  • Also presented lung data from Phase IIa trial in Spain. Marty adelman presented results. <blah blah>
  • SEC clearance for $MRK deal
  • EU filing: $ECYT has primary responsibility w/ EU filing & is coordinating with $MRK’s european organization.
  • Other indications: $MRK will pursue other indications aside from ovarian & NSCLC.
  • $MRK has responsibility for manufacturing for EC145…we’re doing tech transfer on this.

CFO:

  • Q1: lost 9.8 million compared to 7.2 million “last year”…R & D costs were was up ~$2 million primarily due to CMC work method & process validation associated w/ the EU filing process.
  • SG & A up $1 million…primarily due to being a public company. This is the last quarter where we compare our finances to a pre-IPO quarter.
  • Operating expenses for past few sequential quarters have been relatively stable averaging about $10.5MM. This cost was associated with PROCEED trial, but now the PROCEED trial expense has come down due to doxil shortage and has been offset by costs of EU filing.
  • Pro-forma balance of ~ $238 MM
  • Prior to deal, would have guided to increased expenses due to ramp up in enrollment of trials.
  • $MRK reimbursing for all lung trial costs and part of proceed trial costs
  • Net spending growth will be driven by proceed trial ramp up, but mitigated substantially by $MRK picking up the tab…Expect operating expense growth to be 12% or lower compared to 2011 (< $50MM).
  • Several sources indicated restoration of doxil supply in 2H2012. Sources include FDA, JNJ, EU regulatory agencies. 

Questions:

Semos Semonitis?? Cowen: When will you be profitable? Are you only paying for part of PROCEED? How much is the part that you’ll be paying? 

  • $40 million for PROCEED. We’ll handle the majority (something more than half) of the cost.
  • Profitability would come after US & EU approval.  Expect to have PROCEED PFS data by 1H of 2014. If things go well, we’d expect to file in shortly thereafter.

Where are you in your discussions w/ FDA?

  • We have agreement w/ FDA on major components of study design…mostly related to endpoint being FR++ only. Agreement that PFS as primary endpoint **could** [could drive a truck through this loophole] lead to accelerated approval in FR++ Pt-resistant ovarian cancer.  Most meetings have been w/ FDA imaging group…more “educational” [riiiight]…$ECYT brings nuclear medicine readers to show FDA how they read the images. TFDA imaging group is very engaged & “excited”.
  • More meetings in the summer…discussions will include submission of the final statistical analysis plan for PROCEED. Will study be limited to FR++ patients or will we also include non-FR++ patients. EU is also interested in this.  Both EU & FDA would like to see more data in other patient groups besides FR++. Statistical designs discussed w/ FDA to deal with non-FR++ patients (it’s called a “step-down design”…not worthy of details). Primary endpoints have been agreed to…may be some amendments to trial, but major points are settled.

Single pivotal trial would be sufficient for accelerated approval?

  • Yes [unequivocal]. Consistent w/ what FDA told us in previous meetings. Can use PFS as a primary endpoint (they will want to look @ OS).  Full approval would require a subsequent confirmatory PFS study or a “very very” strong OS benefit in this trial.

Have you communicated w/ JNJ about the doxil shortage?  How much doxil are you importing from Europe…how much do you need to avoid another potential delay?

  • We have enough doxil from Europe to enroll 50 - 70 patients (depends on # of cycles that patients will stay on drug)…ongoing dialog w/ JNJ…it’s a priority for them —[they’re leaving $$ on the table b/c of this shortage]…September [2012] date has been referenced by JNJ & regulatory bodies. As long as doxil comes back by year end, “we should be fine w/o missing a beat” [what does this mean? What happens if it doesn’t come back online by eoy?].
  • [There’s been some noise about imminent relief of the doxil shortage b/c JNJ has said they are expanding the list of patients waiting for the drug in their “doxil cares” program, but this seems to be more related to existing wait-listees dropping out of the program. So, we still do not expect relief of doxil shortage until Sept 2012.]

Jason Kantor, RBC. You said you have funds available to get you to profitability. Do you need EU approval to get to profitability? Does this assume some average annual spend? [of course it does]. How long will you amortize the up front payment & what method will you use?

  • Profitability most likely requires both EU and US approval. Our estimates will also depend on our aggressiveness in developing existing pipeline. Depends on what other indications we pursue w/ early stage compounds. Assumptions we’ve made about profitability do actually include substantial investments (another folate-targeted drug moving through a randomized trial) & another inflammation drug through phase I. But we are not in a position to comment in more detail of burn rate beyond 2012.
  • [doesn’t answer amortization question].

CEO says something strange[honest?] at the end: “[at] one time the [$ECYT] train seemed a little bit off the track, I think we’ve gotten things back on w/ these critical studies enrolling…”

May 6

Notes on $ALXA Adasuve CRL CC

  • Ladies & Gentlemen, give it up for Mr. Thomas King, CEO of $ALXA!! [crickets]
  • [Safe Harbor yada yada]
  • Adasuve CRL was issued by CDER. CRL noted 1 deficiency related to facility inspections & manufacturing:
“during a recent inspection of the mountain view california manufacturing facility for this applicant, our field investigator conveyed deficiencies to the representative of the facility. Satisfaction [sic?] resolution of these deficiencies is required before this application may be approved.” [as others have pointed out, King does not say this is the ONLY issue brought up in the CRL. He just says that there is 1 manufacturing issue in the CRL].
  • $ALXA believes these deficiencies are medically device specific and readily addressable.
  • No new clinical or safety issues identified and there were no other deficiencies outlined in the CRL [lots of wiggle room here. Was the old stuff brought up?].
  • CRL said REMS discussions [related to bronchospasm] can continue after response to action letter has been submitted.
  • CRL has comments on draft product labeling including what they believe to be a near final draft of package insert [Seems like everybody says this].
  • Primary manufacturing issue is that Adasuve manufacturing process validation is “incomplete”. $ALXA makes 3 batches of each dosage strength and analyzes each batch to demonstrate “that our manufacturing process is viable [whatever that means. makes no sense.]”.  
  • $ALXA has completed manufacturing process validation for 10mg dose, but not for 5 mg [why the f@#$% not?].
  • But we still need to talk to FDA about this because our interpretation could be totally wrong. We’re going to talk to them ASAP.
  • [blah blah blah yada yada yada]

Q & A: Q & A was like a police lineup: 2 hobos and 1 perp (real ‘analyst’)

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May 6

A non-fancy rant on Obesity

Hi. You may be here b/c I just tweeted about a pissing match I got into with Nate Sadeghi-Nejad over his recent comments on obesity.

This is my rebuttal and it is probably the last I’ll say about it for a while.

That being said, there are a lot of words down there and if you don’t want to read them, you can turn back now. My feelings won’t be hurt.

The pissing match started with Nate suggesting that obesity was a ‘disorder’, rather than a ‘disease’. I’m not going to talk about the fact that these terms are poorly defined and if you asked 10 people their definition, you’d get 10 different overlapping answers.

Rather, despite the vague definitions, my guess is that Nate uses disorder to mean a condition that is less severe and more personally controllable (and therefore less deserving of sympathy) than a full-blown disease, whose effects are essentially uncontrollable by the individual. Of course, this is a flawed understanding of disease for the simple reason that many diseases have both environmental (controllable) and hereditary (uncontrollable) contributions (e.g., Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, numerous cancers). But Nate reserves his condescension exclusively for the disease (or disorder) of obesity.

The pissing match ended on Friday with Nate’s Incidence Challenge. Nate tweeted:

“Name a disease other than T2DM [Type 2 Diabetes] that has a similar incidence curve. NSCLC being considered.”

Twitter doesn’t give you much room to say what you mean, but what I think he means is  this: unlike other diseases (except Type 2 Diabetes) the incidence of obesity has exploded over the past 30 years, so it can’t possibly be a) a disease and b) influenced by hereditary factors.

So, let’s see. First off, Nate tries to tie one hand behind my back by saying that I’m not allowed to use the disease that immediately disproves his argument—Type 2 diabetes. Second, incidence has nothing to do with the definition of disease. Even if we accept his handicap of throwing out Type 2 diabetes, diseases are not defined by whether or not they have a particular type of incidence.

A more appropriate definition of disease (and hopefully Nate would agree) is that it is a pathological condition whose manifestation [sorry, fancy word] is at least partly out of the control of the sufferer. Does this definition hold for obesity? Absolutely. There are truckloads of studies tying obesity to genetic and epigenetic* conditions, with the heritability of obesity ranging from 6% to 85% in different groups (see here here here here here here here here here here here and here for a small sample of studies).

But hey, we can ignore all the research because Nate was chubby once and he started to exercise and he’s not chubby anymore. So it must work for everyone.

Of course, Nate’s view also defies common sense:

  • I think even he would agree that human hunger and satiety [again, I apologize for using a fancy word] are physiologically controlled.
  • I’m also sure that Nate has no problem believing that human cancers are basically caused by the body’s derangement of the control of cell division. 
  • And yet, he presumably balks at the possibility that hunger and satiety could also become deranged physiological processes in some people.

Here’s my challenge to Nate: You know the FDA’s criteria for efficacy of obesity drugs? Find me a controlled study showing that diet and exercise alone can achieve the FDA mandated criteria for weight loss in a large group of participants (n > 300) for more than 3 years. And when you can’t find such a study, please speculate as to why that is [here’s a hint: think genetics & epigenetics]. 

To those who get pissed off because I might be siding with the American culture of victimhood and “my genes made me do it”. I’m not absolving the obese. They have the genetic cards they were dealt and they can partially influence them by their environmental choices. But make no mistake that we are often slaves to our bodies in more ways than we might realize. And I think the obese deserve a little better than condescending snark from people who should know (and behave) better.

And now, back to the stock market.

P.S. Despite my obesity rant, I still think $ARNA is still screwed this week. At least Nate & I agree on that.

*It’s worth noting that epigenetic factors could explain the ‘explosion’ of obesity and T2DM in America & elsewhere (see here for 1 of many examples).

Levadex: A dud in waiting

More snarky thoughts on $MAPP.

Quick! What’s the best selling ergotamine-based anti-migraine drug on the market?

You don’t know?

Neither do I. The reason I don’t know the answer to that question is because the ergotamine market is so small and Balkanized that information about revenue from ergotamine-based meds doesn’t register in various google searches like this and this

HOWEVER, if you poke around long enough, you’ll see that Valeant Pharmaceuticals, makers of Migranal (dihydroergotamine nasal spray), arguably the best known ergotamine-based anti-migraine drug, sold a staggering $13 million of the stuff in 2008. They haven’t bothered to break down their sales of Migranal since then, but I think we can safely assume that it’s still selling south of $50 million a year.

And yet, there are some Nostradamuses out there predicting that MAP Pharmaceuticals’ Levadex (orally inhaled dihydroergotamine) is poised to sell $400 - $750 million a year (depending on which addled investor is writing about it on seeking alpha)…because…because…well, there’s no good reason to suspect it will sell anywhere near that amount*. And there are plenty of reasons to suspect that Levadex (if approved) with be a ho-hum steady-Eddie $20-50 million-a-year drug.

If you want a sober and cogent analysis of why Levadex will be a dud, see here and here and here

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$ECYT $MRK Conf Call on deal for EC145 (suicide bomber version of Vitamin B9)


CEO speaks
  • ……………..zzzzzzz………
  • …2 minutes in and nothing substantive has been said…
  • “we’re thrilled to be partnering w/ $MRK”…”first class organization <blah blah blah>”
  • “We understood each other” $ECYT <3 $MRK (met on eharmony)
  • “We just had great alignment” (MRK wasn’t doing anything in the onc space this weekend (and through 2018) so they’re going to come over & help us test EC145. They’re also gonna help us move the $ECYT barcalounger into the basement).
  • ………4 minutes in and nothing of substance has been said….
  • ………$MRK funding development program beyond ovarian….
  • [I think the word “thrilled” has been used in every sentence so far.]
Meeting should have started at minute 6
CFO Speaks
  • $120 million up front (not quite as much as mega millions).
  • $MRK has world wide rights to develop EC145.
  • $MRK and $ECYT will co-promote EC145 in US w/ equal sharing of costs and profit.
  • $MRK has exclusive rights to EC145 outside US & $ECYT gets double-digit royalty.
  • $ECYT retains rights to EC20 & will ensure EC20 is available to $MRK for development of EC145.
  • $ECYT is responsible for “full value chain” for EC20.
  • Clinical trial execution: ecyt will continue to execute phase 3 PROCEED trial in ovarian and $ECYT will be responsible for the majority [not sure what this means] of the costs…all other development will be responsibility of $MRK.
  • Phase 2 lung study is already active…we’ll continue to execute on this trial and hand off to $MRK [does this contradict the previous bullet point?].
  • $MRK has committed to develop EC145 in other indications.
  • Previously, we had enough $ to complete PROCEED, complete the phase 2 lung trial & bring another pipeline drug into clinic.
  • Now, our near term cash burn will be lowered b/c $MRK’s picking up the tab.
  • The $ infusion also allows us to be more aggressive in pipeline development + allows us to develop commercial capability related to EC20.
  • No need to raise $ in foreseeable future.
  • We are developing drugs in inflammatory space…another folate drug and a prostate drug.
  • Financial guidance will come at another time.
Questions:

Chris Raymond of Baird. Amazing deal. Is there any change to the plans of filing in Europe?
  • No.
Is filing now driven by $MRK? 
  • We’ll be collaborating on reg filings…still on track to file in late Q3 or early Q4
Color on your decision to keep development of EC20 in house?
  • EC20 is an important element of the platform.  We have other folate-targeted drugs (onc & inflammatory)…we need to have total control of EC20
  • $MRK obviously has rights to use EC20
Cowan? Royalty ex US? Above 20%? 
  • CFO: All I can say it’s double-digit outside US
Remainder of PROCEED costs & phase 2/3 for lung. How much are those trials going to cost now?
  • Cost of trials…we’re responsible for a majority [what does this mean?] of the PROCEED trial costs (some sharing)…still have some discussions w/ FDA about finer elements of study that will affect total size of PROCEED…historically identified $40 million dollars for the TOTAL cost of that trial and we’re responsible for the majority of that. Lung cancer trial: $MRK is responsible for the cost of that trial.  Lung trial size is ~180 patients. We had estimated that it would cost 50? million dollars, [so we’ll save that amount].
You retained right to co-promote in us…are you seriously going to do this? 50/50?
  • [CFO makes noises with mouth, but says nothing]

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Apr 9
Sinatra &amp; The Boys Discuss $VVUS. I am now long $VVUS.

Sinatra & The Boys Discuss $VVUS. I am now long $VVUS.

Apr 9

Why $VVUS’s Qnexa will be approved sooner rather than later

Vivus’s anti-obesity medication, Qnexa, has a 4/17/12 PDUFA date looming. 

Here’s my abbreviated rationale for why it will be approved.

  • Vivus’s 1/9/12 announcement indicating that the FDA had asked Vivus to remove the contraindication of childbearing-women from the proposed Qnexa label was a strong positive indication. 
  • The advisory committee vote recommending approval was also strongly positive (20+, 2-), and it provided political cover for FDA decision makers.
  • Qnexa results meet/exceed FDA guidelines for development of anti-obesity meds. You can’t keep moving the goalposts on people.
  • Qnexa’s active ingredients (topiramate & phentermine) are already on the market.
  • There’s nothing else approved on the anti-obesity front except for orlistat, which is about as effective as a waterproof towel.

There have been rumors about a possible delay in Qnexa approval due to haggling over REMS issues. I don’t know anything about that, but the simpler view is that the FDA keeps its word and renders a + verdict on 4/17/12. 

I currently have no position in $VVUS.

Apr 8

$KERX Conference Call Discussing Failure of Perifosine in MCC

This is a permanent link to the $KERX call (Keryx’s version will be removed on 4/17/12). Call was listen only (no questions, only 10 minutes). They’re definitely burying Perifosine (they imply they’ll have difficulty recruiting for their multiple myeloma trial) & playing up Zerenex, but see here for a bearish opinion on Zerenex.

Apr 2

$AVII Conference Call / Postmortem

My take home message: There’s more uncertainty surrounding the functionality of the exon-skipped version of dystrophin than I had initially suspected. They are hoping[praying] that their version of dystrophin is still somewhat functional and that they will see a clinical benefit after 24 weeks.

CEO:

  • dystrophin protein can be produced w/ [our] drug therapy
  • highly statistically significant
  • american academy of neurology (AAN) meeting on 4/25. AAN meeting/presentation will give more data.
  • primary endpoint was dystrophin production as a % of normal
  • p = 0.002 for 30mg/kg/week cohort
  • average of > 20% of dystrophin + fibers…medical literature suggests this level is associated with better clinical outcomes…based on animal models and in Becker’s (milder) muscular dystrophy.
  • consistency across all of patients…range of 15.9% to 29.0% of novel dystrophin fibers in 30 mg cohort. Results determined in blinded fashion by histologists and multiple samples per patient.
  • We asked the question, “Can higher dose (50mg/kg/week) also increase dystrophin levels in a shorter timeframe (12 weeks)?” No. Results are clear. [ed: Why is this true? Shouldn’t you start making dystrophin more or less immediately? Maybe ‘interesting’ biology here.]
  • Rollover extension study will assess whether 50mg/kg/week shows dystrophin and a clinical benefit.
  • Through 24 weeks, no treatment related adverse events, no serious adverse events either.
  • [CEO sounds strained. “LOOK YOU BASTARDS, THESE ARE GOOD DATA! STOP SAYING THE GLASS IS HALF EMPTY!!!!]
  • Didn’t see clinical benefit in running walking tests.
  • Extension study is now open label. Expect more biopsy data and other clinical benefit data in 2H of 2012.

[operator now sounds stoned]

Lazard: Congrats! Ages of patients? Any color? Were they really sick?

  • Baseline characteristics consistent across cohorts. Avg age ~9 years. “good distribution” of ages [what exactly is a “good” distribution here?]. Still evaluating each individual patient [post-hoc mining]. 

  Is the dystrophin that is produced diffuse across biopsy/muscle sample?

  • Very consistent across many samples, but we haven’t looked at other muscle groups [aside from bicep].
  • Other speaker: Ed Kaye, CMO. Very happy that dystrophin levels were about 20%…should see clinical benefit “over time.” [because we didn’t see it @ 24 weeks].

What about secondary outcomes related to immune infiltrates?

  • We’re still evaluating [sounds like bullshit]…”we were focused on …dystrophin”

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